Open Grid Public Beta/Daily Huddle Transcripts/Transcript 20080912

[8:59] Xugu Madison: Hi!
[9:00] TUX Hultcrantz: Hello
[9:02] Whump Linden: Hey, morning.
[9:02] TUX Hultcrantz: g'morning
[9:03] Whump Linden: Xugu, how's the grid mode work going?
[9:03] Xugu Madison: Vaguely made progress, with a little luck I'll have it up in grid mode, for as long as it holds, in an hour or two
[9:04] Whump Linden: excellent.
[9:04] Whump Linden: Saijanai, the people getting set up with PyOGP yesterday, did they get settled in?
[9:05] TUX Hultcrantz: seems that we will need a way to match region coords with a grid?
[9:06] TUX Hultcrantz: zzzzt - scratch that
[9:06] TUX Hultcrantz: :)
[9:06] Whump Linden: Yes, there's some baggage with the viewer and coordinates.
[9:06] Xugu Madison: (about to make coffee, and still can't get used to not asking if anyone in SL wants some)
[9:06] Whump Linden: TUX, are you bringing up a grid as well?
[9:07] Whump Linden: Xugu, I'm going to grab some after this.
[9:07] TUX Hultcrantz: i was thinking it would register with each grid
[9:07] TUX Hultcrantz: yes - i have a local one i can use, or my OSGrid regions
[9:07] TUX Hultcrantz: I will try the local on efirst
[9:07] Whump Linden: Cool.
[9:08] TUX Hultcrantz: any viewer changes required, or are we ready now
[9:08] Whump Linden: Grab the current Open Grid Beta viewer.
[9:08] TUX Hultcrantz: k
[9:08] Whump Linden: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Open_Grid_Public_Beta/Open_Grid_Beta_Viewers
[9:09] TUX Hultcrantz: does the LL grid location still apply?
[9:09] TUX Hultcrantz: that is what is throwing me for a loop
[9:09] Whump Linden: TUX, can you elaborate?
[9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: well, on my grid, the regions are mapped at their coords -
[9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: so i don't need to change that do i?
[9:10] Whump Linden: yes
[9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: just publish the URI?
[9:10] TUX Hultcrantz: oh?
[9:11] Whump Linden: let me explain further
[9:11] TUX Hultcrantz: ok
[9:13] Whump Linden: So, if you have a grid where there are regions at 1001/1001, 1001/1002, etc, and you teleport to another OGP region, your viewer will have cached views of those regions and if that new region you teleport to is at, say 1002/1002, then you have a view into them.
[9:13] Whump Linden: them being the old regions
[9:13] TUX Hultcrantz: ok
[9:13] Whump Linden: it's a cached view that doesn't update
[9:14] TUX Hultcrantz: i see - ok, i can make a separate region for that with my present coords
[9:15] Whump Linden: the other issue is if you jump from vaak, to a sim thats at grid coordinates such as 10001/10001, there's a viewer glich that shows up with you do a jump of 4096 or more.
[9:15] TUX Hultcrantz: yes
[9:15] TUX Hultcrantz: but, the region beside it is rendered correctly
[9:16] TUX Hultcrantz: an you get an avatar back when you enter the neighboring one
[9:16] Whump Linden: so, if you're bringing up a group of regions attached to OSGrid, for instance, you'll have to juggle our list and OSGrids list of region
[9:16] TUX Hultcrantz: so, in the next step , will we consider including the foreign grid server to place regions?
[9:18] Whump Linden: what we call spaceserver is future work, we're still looking at what we're doing in next step of the beta.
[9:18] TUX Hultcrantz: actually, i can take my present region, enable grid mode and point it to my grid server
[9:19] Whump Linden: that works too, but again you'll need to see how to fit it into the current map
[9:19] TUX Hultcrantz: spaceserver would be a good next step, i think
[9:20] Whump Linden: and atlases in general
[9:20] TUX Hultcrantz: i'm ok on my grid - and it's ok on the LL grid now
[9:21] Whump Linden: what's your region URL?
[9:21] TUX Hultcrantz: 2306/2306
[9:21] TUX Hultcrantz: [1]
[9:22] Whump Linden: doh! I forgot that.
[9:22] TUX Hultcrantz: ant that will be within teleport distance of my current reginos
[9:22] TUX Hultcrantz: lol - yeah
[9:23] TUX Hultcrantz: i've gone "underground" so i can get some work done :)
[9:24] Whump Linden: okay, I have to look at the script on my region, I got a report that's stopped working after I updated to top of trunk.
[9:24] TUX Hultcrantz: spaceserver would be a logical "next step" , but it would depend on how inventory plays wit crossing into other regions
[9:24] Whump Linden: Morning, Adamasch.
[9:25] TUX Hultcrantz: hmm, i update all the contents of my region each update
[9:25] TUX Hultcrantz: i have seen a few quirks with scripts
[9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: although, you can probable just make a small mod to save it
[9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: and it should restart
[9:26] Whump Linden: just add a newline or space?
[9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: yes
[9:26] Whump Linden: cool
[9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: i kee an oar file that i just load after upgrading
[9:26] TUX Hultcrantz: keep
[9:27] Whump Linden: yes, the OAR file is a great help.
[9:27] TUX Hultcrantz: i also need to check the engine on mine
[9:27] TUX Hultcrantz: XEngine crashes me
[9:27] Whump Linden: physics?
[9:27] TUX Hultcrantz: ODE
[9:28] Whump Linden: ah
[9:28] TUX Hultcrantz: i know there were big problems with SQLite a couple of days ago
[9:28] Whump Linden: okay, is Enus' holding an office hour this morning still?
[9:29] Whump Linden: yes, there was a discussion of SQLite at the OpenSim office hours on Tuesday
[9:29] Whump Linden: not sure if you were at that meeting?
[9:29] TUX Hultcrantz: i think it is fixed
[9:29] TUX Hultcrantz: yes i was there
[9:30] Whump Linden: I'm not seeing errors in SQLite and I updated yesterday afternoon
[9:30] Whump Linden: okay
[9:30] Saijanai Kuhn: Hey Im heading over to Enus' (morning all)
[9:30] Whump Linden: Morning Saij.
[9:30] TUX Hultcrantz: ok, i'm going to see if i can get my region connected to my grid, if i run into anything i can document it
[9:30] Whump Linden: I'm going to get some coffee, since inventory transfer isn't working yet.
[9:31] Saijanai Kuhn: I'll post this?
[9:31] TUX Hultcrantz: do we need something on the wiki about this
[9:31] Whump Linden: then reload the oar on my region
[9:31] TUX Hultcrantz: setting up a region in grid mode?
[9:31] Whump Linden: TUX if you want to write something up, that would be great
[9:32] TUX Hultcrantz: ok, i'll document "my adventure" today :)
[9:32] Whump Linden: cool
[9:32] TUX Hultcrantz: ok, i'm off - you guys have a good day
[9:32] Saijanai Kuhn: I'll post this to wiki unless you're tlkang more after I leave
[9:32] Whump Linden: have a good one
[9:32] TUX Hultcrantz: bye
[9:32] Saijanai Kuhn: bye
[9:32] Whump Linden: Saij, no, I need to coffee up. :)
[9:32] Whump Linden: have a good day